Comments on: 2009 Honda Accord Diesel

By: NSX-R

NSX-R — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:46:34 +0000

True about the diesel, it seems that Honda is focusing on their hybrid lineup, with the CRZ in the works. They seem to be getting some momentum with it’s new insight and they managed to make it under $20k. Personally I wouldn’t see Honda going towards Diesel when they are making inexpensive hybrids. I don’t think we will see them going diesel anytime soon.

By: eric neville

eric neville — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 04:55:03 +0000

This is really old news (2007)…Honda Accord and the Diesel engine story was all show and no go.

Yes they have the 2.2 diesel in Europe but unless HOnda comes up with a way to meet 50 state emmisions, and a way to sell it in the mid 20′$ the Honda Diesel plan is dead in the ditch.

So far they haven’t and don’t seem to care either. It’s now nearly 2010 and VW is selling their Jetta, Golf and Beetle TDI’s like hot cakes in a market that they have all to themselves..

By: K.

K. — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:32:41 +0000

Need to get folks to mentally “reverse” the HP and Torque values to get a rough indication of the “oomph” a diesel engine can provide; or at the very least have them “add” the HP and Torque values together for both the standard gas and optional diesel engines to see that the “combined” values for each engine generally fall in roughly the same ballpark with each other…….

By: NSX-R

NSX-R — Mon, 19 May 2008 05:53:40 +0000

lol I understand what you are saying about the setbacks for a diesel powered sports car. What I was saying that a ideal concept diesel in a s2000 will achieve a low end torque which could possibly shed some time from 0-60 in the s2000, also increasing mpg, power, and efficiency without increasing displacement. Also considering how well the f-series motor is design that a possible diesel high performance engine will only compliment the s2000 in the acceleration, mpg, efficiency and power of course major factors would have to be carefully designed which Honda always does. Which the power of the diesel can be seen in the euro version 5 door hatchback civic which uses 2.2 i-CTDi diesel which acheives a 251lbs ft of torque @ 2000 rpms with a 0-60 in just 7.6 seconds.

The new 2010 or 2011 NSX might be priced like the original NSX 90k unless they want to compete with the GTR in price.

But looking at the new nissan 370z Honda just might kill the s2000 for something better. They should just replace the inline 4 with a 3.5l v6, increase the wheel base and length etc.

Also Honda was using a cut up s2000 as a test mule for their future 550hp 5.0L v-10 powerplant for the NSX. I can’t wait to see the new redesigned NSX. Suppositly it will resemble the look of the z06, but who knows what they might do.

By: Leroy Brown

Leroy Brown — Fri, 16 May 2008 19:17:31 +0000

Benny:
I know there was an Accord Hybrid – on the previous body style. The article stated that there won’t be a new body style Accord Hybrid. FWIW, the Accord Hybrid could have been insanely successful, if only Honda had paired the IMA system with the 4 cylinder, instead of the V6. Midsize hybrids work great – see the Camry hybrid for proof.

By: Benny D

Benny D — Fri, 16 May 2008 14:56:56 +0000

First, a comment on the actual article.
Accord did make a Hybrid. We all saw it at some point. However, after a one-generation run, Honda cut it, stating that hybrid technology works better on smaller cars. That’s completely true, because Honda doesn’t have to work on pumping up the power of the electric motor to meet stupid HP demands of the public.
2) I hope to god Honda never drops a diesel in an S2000. That would be the stupidest thing in creation. (no offense) Even though honda has made a Diesel engine that has great pickup and great throttle response, unless they made an incredibly nimble and quick diesel engine that was also light, a diesel engine in a S2000 wouldn’t work. It’s like giving a kid steroids; too much power for too small a frame. Also, Honda is considering killing off the S2000 when they advent the car to replace the NSX, a 2+2 GT

By: Leroy Brown

Leroy Brown — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:55:37 +0000

Lee you’re right – the low HP in the Accord diesel ( 138 ish ) wouldn’t be a problem performance-wise, with the outstanding torque. The problem would lie in perception. The general public would see 138 HP and cringe, because they’re used to 170+ in midsize sedans. Whether it performs similarly or not won’t matter, because people won’t give it a chance.

Hopefully in a few years perceptions can change, and we can get our hands on a small, crazy efficient diesel.

By: Lee

Lee — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:21:08 +0000

No offense, but I see here the same old misconception: Diesel does not have enough HP. As Andrew pointed out, what we don’t understand here in US is that it’s the low-end torque that matters. My brother has a 7 passenger van in Germany with a 1.9L Diesel. Everybody would scoff at that here, but believe me, when it takes off at the green light, it beats my 2.4L Accord easily. A 2.2L diesel on an Accord would be a very potent engine, with amazing gas mileage too. To have success, Honda does not need a bigger diesel engine, it just needs to bring it here quicker

By: NSX-R

NSX-R — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:34:08 +0000

YOU ARE ABSOLUTLY RIGHT, I JUST CURIOUS IF THEY WOULD DROP ONE IN THE S2000 OR A CIVIC MAYBE EVEN THE FIT. BUT ANYWAY I HOPE THEY FOLLOW THIS PATH. LOOKS LIKE A BRIGHT FUTURE.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:00:29 +0000

With a diesel it’s not the HP it’s the torque. That 138Hp (2.2 litre 4 cylinder) engine has over 250 250lb-ft of torque. Have a look at any V6 on the market today and this engine is right with them. BMW has a 2.0 litre diesel that makes 205Hp and about 300lb-ft of torque, oh ya and gets 55 MPG in their 1 series in Europe. Besides Americans like big torque.

Andrew M
Ontario Canada