2008 Honda Accord Sedan Preview

2008 Honda Accord Sedan First you saw the 2008 Honda Accord Coupe, and it was met with mixed reviews.  Now, we have the 2008 Accord Sedan - though it’s just a drawing for now.  Unfortunately, it looks like the ugly front end is staying put on the sedan as well.  There’s no rear view yet, so I don’t know if it’ll be as aggressive as the coupe design, or more toned-down for the sedan buyers.  I’ll keep you posted as I come across more information.

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  1. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 5, 2007 @ 9:56 am

    NOW THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT HONDA! NOT ONLY IS THIS CAR THE BEST RESALE VALUE, HIGH SAFETY RATINGS AND GREAT MPG THEY ALSO GOT THE LOOKS TO SWEEP YOU AWAY! SWEEEEEEEET……….. SHHHHHH…..HOT!
  2. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 5, 2007 @ 9:59 am

    Unfortunately, it looks like the ugly front end is staying put on the sedan as well.
    UGLY FRONT? COMPARED TO THE 2006? ARE YOU SERIOUS? THAT LOOK MAKES THE DODGE CHARGER WET ITSELF IN FEAR.
  3. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 5, 2007 @ 10:05 am

    IF YOU TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THIS CAR, LOOK AT THE 92 ACCORD’S SLIMLINE FRONT END AND THE 06 BODY YOU MIGHT SEE SOMETHING SIMILAR, THE DESIGN.
  4. Leroy Brown said,

    Wrote on April 5, 2007 @ 12:12 pm

    Maybe I need to see it in person before I judge it. I drive an 07 Accord coupe and I think it looks very nice, though plain. The 08 is definitely more exciting, but i’m not sure if it’s to my liking.
  5. Ron G. said,

    Wrote on April 6, 2007 @ 4:43 pm

    I drive an ‘07 AV6 SE 4Dr. Looking at this, the concept reminds me of a TSX front end, and the silhouette of Infiniti’s G35 sedan. I’m lovin’ this concept! Make hit happen, HONDA!!! But, make the V6 powertrain closer to 300hp. Please!!!
  6. Leroy Brown said,

    Wrote on April 7, 2007 @ 7:13 am

    I think we’ll see close to 300 HP - definitely more than the current 244. After all, Toyota’s at 269, and Nissan’s at 270. I’d venture to say that the new Accord will be packing at least 260. I doubt they’ll go for the HP crown; they’re more of a high mileage brand the way I see it.
  7. Jermzoi said,

    Wrote on April 12, 2007 @ 12:58 pm

    I’m buying this car!
  8. Tom said,

    Wrote on April 14, 2007 @ 2:08 pm

    I have an 04 V6 with 240 hp, would an extra 30-40 hp even be that noticeable? I think this will look better in person too. They always look better in person. I can’t wait to test it out. I’ll probably wait for the 2009 but I’ll be getting this. I do hope they put a hard drive in this car.
  9. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 15, 2007 @ 6:16 pm

    REPLY//I have an 04 V6 with 240 hp, would an extra 30-40 hp even be that noticeable? //
    WELL IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE, IT’S HOW WOULD YOU INCREASE THE HP BY TURBO OR SUPERCHARGER?
  10. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 15, 2007 @ 6:30 pm

    REPLY//But, make the V6 powertrain closer to 300hp. Please!!!// LET’S SEE, VTEC 300 HP THIS WOULD BE INTRESTING. IF THEY REALLY WANT TO ALL THEY NEED TO DO IS JUST PORT OVER THE V6 VTEC ENGINE FROM THE HONDA NSX (300BHP 3.2L) TO THE SEDAN AND COUPE AND YOU’VE GOT A 300BHP ACCORD.
  11. Leroy Brown said,

    Wrote on April 16, 2007 @ 9:07 am

    I think an extra 30-40 HP would be noticeable, but perhaps only to auto enthusiasts. The average person isn’t likely to be able to tell much of a difference; unless they immediately drive an 07 and 08 back to back.

    I love power, but FWIW I think the current V6 Accord has plenty. I’d rather see a big MPG jump.

  12. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 16, 2007 @ 10:34 am

    WELL KNOWING HONDA THEY PROABLY INCREASE IN HP AND MPG BECAUSE THIS IS A VTEC MOTOR WERE TALKING ABOUT HERE. SO I HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS FROM THEM.
  13. Mike said,

    Wrote on April 25, 2007 @ 6:09 am

    I had a 2003 V6. Don’t see the need for more hp. Would rather have better mpg and even more quiet.
    How often are you going to have the need to mash the pedal to the floor on a 300 hp engine? That is the only time you are using all the power, is when you have the pedal to the metal
  14. Leroy Brown said,

    Wrote on April 25, 2007 @ 8:06 am

    Mike - Ultimately I’m hoping Honda sees it your way. Big power numbers are fun, no doubt. But the Accord is first and foremost an economical, safe, reliable family car. MPG weighs much more heavily than HP to me with this car. That’s why I chose the four banger after all… I’d love to see a higher EPA rating for 08, even with the changes.
  15. RUSSELL FERNANDES said,

    Wrote on April 26, 2007 @ 10:01 am

    THATS A MEAN LOOKING CAR.

    IM DAMN SCARED

  16. Lisa said,

    Wrote on April 26, 2007 @ 3:47 pm

    I LOVE the look! Looking forward to seeing it in person and test driving it! I’m ready to purchase a new HONDA! I love my ‘97 Accord, but it’s time for a new one! I’m SO happy I waited for the 08 Accord. I looks sporty and fun!
  17. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 27, 2007 @ 7:07 am

    REPLY//Don’t see the need for more hp. Would rather have better mpg and even more quiet.// WHILE THAT IS TRUE AND I AGREE ON THE MPG PART, IT’S JUST THE NATURE OF HONDA TO INCREASE THEIR ENGINE HP BY AT LEAST5 TO 15% BY EVERY GENERATION OF ACCORDS WITHOUT LOSING MPG, AND GAIN MORE MPG IN THE PROCESS. SO MY THING IS IF THEY ARE INCREASING BOTH MPG AND HP , ISN’T THAT A GOOD THING?BUT IF YOU WANT MORE MPG THERE’S THE HYBRID ACCORD THAT GETS BETTER MPG. ALSO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE UNFAMILAR WITH THE CAR INDUSTRY WILL PROABLY NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THE DETAILS LIKE WE DO UNFORTINATLY I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT. I BELIEVE THAT HONDA NOT ONLY LOOKS AT THE MPG BUT THE HP TOO BECAUSE IN ORDER TO REACH A NEW BREED OF CUSTOMERS. ALSO PEOPLE JUST LIKE TO SEE STATS THAT THEIR CAR HAS MORE HORSES.
  18. Leroy Brown said,

    Wrote on April 27, 2007 @ 12:43 pm

    Yup - more HP and more MPG sounds like a winner to me. And hopefully Honda will debut a new Accord Hybrid - perhaps with the 4 cylinder this time around. Maybe even a coupe? Nah I’d get too excited…
  19. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 28, 2007 @ 4:09 pm

    REPLY//How often are you going to have the need to mash the pedal to the floor on a 300 hp engine? That is the only time you are using all the power, is when you have the pedal to the metal.// FIRST OF ALL YOU DON’T HAVE TO FLOOR IT TO FEEL IT. TRY FROM GOING UP A STEEP INCLINE TAPPING ON THE GAS PETAL, I LIVE IN CENTRAL TEXAS WERE THEIRS NOTING BUT HILLS. BETTER HAVE SOME HP OR YOUR IN TROUBLE. I HAD AN 91 ACCORD, STRONG BUT YOU BETTER NOT LET OFF THE GAS OF YOUR IN TROUBLE. I’VE HAD DRIVEN MY GUEST IN A RENTAL FORD TARUS WITH A V6 ENGINE AND IT FELT MUZZLED, WE WERE BARELY GOING GOING THE SPEED LIMIT ON A LONG MILE UP HILL, IT WAS EMBARRASSING…. TO SAY THE LEAST. MY LITTLE CIVIC….. ENOUGH SAID, SHE’S A GOOD GIRL, BETTER THAN THAT 4DOOR FixOrRepairDaily RENTAL CRAP, DO YOU GET IT? FORD. BELIEVE ME THE MORE THE BETTER. AND THE HAPPIER I CAN BE TO ZOOM AROUND THOSE NUT HEAD DRIVERS WHO CAN’T KEEP THEIR CAR BETWEEN THE LINES.
  20. Ravi said,

    Wrote on April 29, 2007 @ 7:30 am

    If you think this has a ugly fron end then something is definitely wrong with you. Will it be AWD?
  21. mike said,

    Wrote on April 29, 2007 @ 12:13 pm

    In my 236 horsepower 2006 Hyundai Sonata or my 2003 240 horsepower Honda Accord I drove both of them thre Wyoming and Colorado and never had to floor it going thru the mountains. I’ll take 300hp if it gets 35 on the highway. But I would rather have the same 244 hp now in the Accord with 35 mpg and maybe 23 city than a 300 hp with 27 highway and 18 city. Mabye they could just sell an aftermarket turbocharger for people that want at least 300 hp?
  22. jt said,

    Wrote on April 29, 2007 @ 3:57 pm

    I have to agree with Mike. 300 Horsepower would defy the Accord’s selling base: simple reliability. To provide an aftermarket blower that would boost horsepower would satisfy those who need to prove something would be a smart idea. But to make it standard would undermine the Accord’s marketability.
  23. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 29, 2007 @ 5:03 pm

    300 Horsepower would defy the Accord’s selling base: simple reliability. // JUST BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE 300HP WOULD NOT TAKE AWAY FROM HONDA’S RELIABILITY. HONDA IS ALWAYS ADDING MORE
  24. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 29, 2007 @ 5:06 pm

    SORRY MY COMPUTER HAD A GLITCH AND MESS UP MY LAST MESSAGE I WAS TRYING TO WRITE.
  25. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 29, 2007 @ 5:24 pm

    THIS IS THE NEXT GEN ACCORD, A NEXT GEN VTEC MOTOR. I’VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS NEW COUPLE AND WHAT ALL HONDA HAD TO SAY. IN NUMEROUS REPORTS THEY SAID THAT THE NEW ACCORD WILL HAVE MORE HP AND BETTER GAS MILEAGE THAN THE PREIVOUS MODEL, THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE SAYING. HONDA HAS NOT LOST FOCUS OF THEIR OBJECTIVE. THEY ARE JUST REVISING IT. IT’S NOT THEYARE MAKING A DODGE VIPER OUT OF THIS. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED A HYBRID?
  26. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 29, 2007 @ 5:33 pm

    //But to make it standard would undermine the Accord’s marketability.// LOOK A THE NEW HONDA FIT.BASED ON THE CONSUMER REPORTS A 1.5L 109HP SUBCOMPACT CAR. PEOPLES ONLY COMPLAINT WAS THE MPG. EVEN THE CIVIC GETS BETTER GAS MILEAGE THAN THE FIT, BUT ACCORDING TO SEVERAL SALESMAN IN MY AREA THAT THEY ARE SELLING SO FAST THAT THEY HAVE A WAITING LIST BECAUSE THEY CAN’T MAKE ENOUGH. PERSONALLY, JUST BECAUSE ONE ASPECT OF THE CAR IS CHANGED OR DIFFERENT DOESN’T TAKE AWAY FROM THE RELIABLITY OR REPUTATION FOR HONDA.
  27. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 29, 2007 @ 5:38 pm

    If you think this has a ugly fron end then something is definitely wrong with you. WHO SAID THAT?
  28. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 29, 2007 @ 5:40 pm

    TAKE A GOOOOOD LOOOOONG LOOOOOOOOOK AT THAT PICTURE, DO YOU THINK IT’S GOING TO BE A 240HP?
  29. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 29, 2007 @ 5:46 pm

    Mabye they could just sell an aftermarket turbocharger for people that want at least 300 hp?// DO YOU THINK HONDA IS GOING TO SELL A TURBOCHARGER, I HIGHLY DOUBT IT. HONDA IS AWAYS NATURAL ASPERATED V6 NO TURBO OR SUPERCHARGER, EXCEPT FOR THE MDX. I WOULDN’T EVEN BOTHER WITH A TURBO FOR A HONDA SEDAN. JUST GIVE ME 300HP RAW POWER, ALL STOCK. NO AFTER MARKET TURBO, NO THANK YOU.
  30. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 29, 2007 @ 5:51 pm

    WHY NOT GET A PRIUS IF YOU WANT BETTER MPG? IT’S A 4DOOR. I’M JUST CUIROUS OF WHAT YALL HAVE TO SAY.
  31. mike said,

    Wrote on April 29, 2007 @ 5:55 pm

    Yeah I’ll accept all the hp they want to deliver. I am just saying 244 is plenty and I would rather have higher mpg. yeah they can do both , but more hp is always going to come with a mileage penalty. I considered the hybrid, but the trunk was too small, the back seat didn’t fold down and stopping distance was too long.
  32. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 29, 2007 @ 6:00 pm

    THANKS, I WASN’T TRYING TO BE A BUTT ABOUT I WAS JUST INTRESTED ON YOUR STAND POINT ON THE HYBRID.
  33. mike said,

    Wrote on April 29, 2007 @ 6:01 pm

    There is a new prius coming out in about a year.I considered the current one but it was too noisy, stopping distances were too long and it was tad slow.
  34. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 29, 2007 @ 6:06 pm

    WHEN IT COMES TO CARS I GO NUTS SOMETIMES. PERSONALLY I NEVER DRIVEN A PRIUS, BUT IT JUST DOESN’T APPEAL TO ME FOR SOME REASON. THANKS FOR YOUR RESPONSE.
  35. Leroy Brown said,

    Wrote on April 30, 2007 @ 5:49 am

    Re: the Prius.. If the Prius wasn’t really ugly and dorky looking, I think a lot more people would own one. Me personally, I couldn’t bring myself to drive it… even if it does get 50 MPG. That’s why I’m interested in the 08 Accord - it’ll look good ( if not perfect ) have enough power, and hopefully get ridiculous gas mileage too.
  36. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on April 30, 2007 @ 5:18 pm

    //Will it be AWD?// YOU KNOW I MENTION THAT ON THE HONDA COUPE VERSION SHOULD HAVE AWD AND I GOT SHOT DOWN. BESIDES THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY COMPETITIVE MARKET IF HONDA MADE AWD VERSION. JUST LIKE THE TSX, MAYBE HAVE TWO MODELS . A 4WD TYPE-R OR SI V6 300 HP AND A FWD WITH 35 MPG. SO HONDA SI CAN SPANK THE G35, 350Z, EVO, AND WRX . WHILE IT’S MORE CONSERVATIVE KEN WILL BACK HAND THE CAMRY, PRIUS, MAXIMA, AND ALTIMA. IT’S JUST AN IDEA SO…… YAH, I KNOW IT’S A LONG SHOT BUT I STILL HAVE SOME HOPE. THEY COULD DO WHAT THEY DID WITH THE 07 CIVIC RELEASE A TYPE-R VERSION A FEW YEARS LATER.
  37. sjlee said,

    Wrote on May 1, 2007 @ 2:21 pm

    For one thing, that picture is a Photoshop of the Accord Coupe concept. Also, if you’re talking about in the US, there was never a Civic Type-R…. just an Si version. The turbocharged Acura is the RDX, not the MDX.

    300 HP is not likely as that would make it have more HP than the Acura TL Type-S. Besides, more HP to the Accord on a FWD platform would make the torque steer even worse on MT versions.

    The Accord is a midsize family sedan… it is not designed to compete against the G35, 350Z, Evo or WRX. It’s competing against the likes of the Camry and Altima.

    AWD would be nice so that it could compete more with Subaru, but it’s probably not likely… especially since Camry and Altima are still only available as FWD models.

    Realistic expectations should be about a 10% increase in both HP and gas mileage.

    By the way, how a car looks is not a good indication on how much HP it has under the hood… look at the Scion TC or Hyundai Tiburon.

  38. mmm said,

    Wrote on May 1, 2007 @ 7:39 pm

    i like the concept, but there’s nothing dynamic about the car. .it just looks good. if the 08′ sedan is going to look something similar to this, then i think the Altima or Camry will have the edge when it comes to styling. to me, it just looks like a regular present day sedan with a body kit..
  39. sjlee said,

    Wrote on May 2, 2007 @ 8:47 am

    I’ve seen the new Altima and Camry up close… I don’t think either one is an improvement over the look of this concept.

    Personally, I like the look of the previous Altima, and I can’t get over the front end of the new Camry.

  40. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 2, 2007 @ 10:34 am

    HAVE YOU SEEN THE ACTUAL IMAGES OF THE NEW COUPE, THE SEDAN MIGHT BE CS2 BUT THE COUPE HAS BEEN SHOWN BEFORE. EXCLUDING THE DRIVE TRAIN. I’M TALKING ABOUT HONDA IN GENERAL, WHEN I MENTION TYPE-R WAS POINTING OUT WHAT HONDA HAS PRODUCED WORLD WIDE AND MAKING A COMPARISION. YES I KNOW SI IS ONLY AVAILABLE IN THE US AND TYPE-R IN THE UK AND JAPAN.

    I’M POINTING OUT THAT HONDA DOES HAVE THE POTIENTIAL OF PRODUCING 300HP, ADD A SLIP DIFFERENTAL TO ASSIST DURING CORNERING. HONDA HAS MUCH MORE EXPERIENCE IN THE FWD REALM

    AS SAID BEFORE I’LL SAY IT AGAIN, IT WOULD BE A INTRESTING MARKET FOR HONDA TO JUMP INTO THE AWD TO COMPETE WITH THEIR COMPETITORS, I KNOW THAT IT’S A FAMILY CAR AND THAT’S WHY I SAID TWO DIFFERENT MODELS. A FUEL FRIENDLY VERSION AND A SPORTY AWD VERSION. I DIDN’T SAY TAKE A HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL BEST SELLING HIGH RESALE VALUE CAR THAT HAS BEEN THE BACKBONE OF HONDA FOR EIGHT GENERATIONS INTO A RADICAL AWD EVO WRX KILLER. I’M SAYING THAT HONDA NEEDS TO LOOK TOWARDS THAT MARKET.

    THE CIVIC, YES IS SPORTY AND COULD SPANK THE TIBURON AND THE TC. BUT IT’S FWD. THE S2000, SPORTY AND IT’S RWD, BUT IT CAN’T COMPARE TO A 350ZAND IT WOULD BE COSTLY TO MOD IT JUST TO COMPARE TO THE 350Z, PLUS IT’S RATHER SMALL LIKE THE MIATA. THE SOON TO BE REVIVED 09NSX I’M EAGERED ABOUT, V-10 500HP, BUT IT’S TOO EXSPENSIVE FOR AN AVERAGE CAR BUYER, A SUPERCAR. THEN… WHAT GOES IN BETWEEN THE S2000 AND NSX. THERE’S A BIG GAP AND NO MEDIUM. THE COUPE MODEL ACCORD WAS GETTING HUGE HYPE, THOUGH NO ONE KNEW THE DRIVETRAIN, THEY WERE HOPING FOR A AWD OR RWD. I WAS TOO, I KNOW A COUPE IS NOT A FAMILY CAR. AT LEAST HAVE IT 300HP AWD. THAT WILL FILL THE GAP BETWEEN THE S2000 AND THE NSX. BUT IT’S RUMORED THAT THE S2000 WILL BE REPLACED AND MAYBE THEN IT WILL TAKE ON THE G35. BUT AGAIN THIS WOULD BE A INTRESTING FIELD FOR HONDA TO JOIN INTO SINCE THEY SEEM TO FAVOR AWD FOR THE TSX AND NSX.

    YES CARS CAN’T BE DETERMINE BY LOOKS ALONE, BUT KNOWING HONDA IT’S NOT GOING TO BE A RUN OF THE MILL CAR. THIS IS THE NEXT GEN ACCORD, THIS WILL GIVE THEM THE EDGE IF THEY FULLY USE THEIR POTIENTAL. AND I HIGHLY DOUBT IT’S GOING TO BE 240HP.

  41. jin said,

    Wrote on May 2, 2007 @ 9:41 pm

    WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOUR CAPS BUTTON , you morons.
  42. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 2, 2007 @ 11:29 pm

    //WHAT THE F**K IS WRONG WITH YOUR CAPS BUTTON , you morons.//UH, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY CAPS BUTTON. GOT A PROBLEM WITH ME USING THEM? IF SO THERE’S NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT YOUR ISSUES WITH CAPS. BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY.
  43. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 2, 2007 @ 11:46 pm

    like the concept, but there’s nothing dynamic about the car. .it just looks good. if the 08′ sedan is going to look something similar to this, then i think the Altima or Camry will have the edge when it comes to styling. to me, it just looks like a regular present day sedan with a body kit.// IT’S A BODY KIT DESIGN I DON’T HAVE TO PURCHASE FROM A AFTERMARKET COMPANY. I PERSONALLY WOULDN’T CALL IT A BODY KIT BUT YOU KNOW IT’S A ACCORD WHEN YOU SEE IT. JUST LIKE YOU KNOW IT’S A YARIS JUST BY LOOKING AT IT’S GRILL. THAT’S THE IMAGE I’M LOOKING FOR, IT’S MORE DISTINGUISHED THAN THE 06MODEL. WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE ALTIMA I HOPE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE COUPE, BUT THEN AGAIN THE STRUCTURE OR BODY RESMIBLES A LOT LIKE THE G35. REALLY THE CAMRY JUST STICKS OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB BAH…. IT LOOKS LIKE A 99CAMRY SHACKED UP WITH THE 07YARIS AND OOPS…..YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY. GOOD DAY.^-^
  44. will said,

    Wrote on May 2, 2007 @ 11:49 pm

    I’m liking it, so far. But I’d like to see an actual picture of one. I’m really looking forward to what the Accord sedan looks like. I’ve had my 97 Civic and I bought it new back in 97. I’m ready to upgrade! I was about to buy an 07 Acura TSX, but now I gotta see this 08 Accord!
  45. Leroy Brown said,

    Wrote on May 3, 2007 @ 4:41 am

    Jin / NSX-R - Please no fighting. I don’t care for the caps myself, but they don’t bother me too much. So Jin, don’t worry about it.

    This is a place to read about the latest and greatest cars - not fight about people’s writing styles.

  46. Mike said,

    Wrote on May 3, 2007 @ 5:48 am

    here’s what they should do. Add a battery system to the Acura RL and make it hybrid only. Put the 300 hp 3.5 in the TL aned add super handling all wheel drive.Make the TSX a hatchback only with a turbo charged diesel and AWD. So all Acura models would be all wheel drive.
    Then for the Accord. use the 3.2 liter engine from the current TL with active cylinder management for better mileage. Make the 4 cylinder a six speed for more responsiveness and better mileage.
  47. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 3, 2007 @ 7:23 am

    THAT’S A VERY INTRESTING IDEA, BY TAKING ACURA AND THE COMBINATION OF SPORTY/LUXURY CAR. MAYBE NOT DIESEL CAUSE I PERSONALLY WOULDN’T BUY ONE. I HEARD FROM ACURA THAT THEY KILLED OF THE RSX AND ARE WORKING ON THE TSX COUPE. NOW IF THEY GO AWD THAT WILL BE THE BEST ALTERNITIVE. AND FINALLY EVERYBODY CAN HAVE WHAT THEY WANT.

    NOW WHAT THEY SHOULD DO WITH THE TSX COUPE IF WHAT I HEARD WAS TRUE. PORT THE 3.2L ENGINE FROM THE NSX COMBINED WITH A AWD SYSTEM. NOW THAT I WOULD BE EXCITED TO DRIVE THAT CAR.

  48. sjlee said,

    Wrote on May 3, 2007 @ 10:07 am

    Realize that Honda markets the Honda brand for the masses, while the Acura division is their luxury/performance line. Hondas have always been known for the best “bang-for-your-buck”. Their cars have never been faster, better handling or more luxurious than their competitors. They have been a great combination of all attributes that people find important in their cars and priced .

    There’s no way that the Accord will have more HP than the TL Type-S. The new Accord will get a HP bump, but I doubt it’ll be up to 300 HP without the TL getting a bump first.

    Also, it doesn’t matter how much technology you throw at a FWD platform, it will still have its limitations. Read the complaints about the TL Type-S (i.e. torque steer)… and that has less than 300 HP.

    If Honda did want to compete with the WRX and Evos, it would probably be based off the Civic platform (similarly sized), not the Accord. I could maybe see them reintroduce the Prelude based on the RDX’s turbo engine and SH-AWD.

    AWD will likely be trickled down to all the Acura cars (only on RL now) eventually, but it remains to be seen if they’ll put it on a Honda since most competiting cars to the Accord have AWD.

    I have indeed seen the spy pics of the new Accord coupe. As with the current Accord, however, the coupe and sedan are usually quite a bit different.

    Why do you say that the S2000 cannot compare to the 350Z? Car and Driver ranked the S2000 ahead of the 350Z in a comparison a few years ago.

    Also, the G35 and S2000 aren’t really in the same category (luxury sports coupe vs. performance convertible), so I don’t see why Honda would feel the need to design the new S2000 to compete with it.

    The Accord, no matter if it is a coupe or sedan, will likely share the same engine… as it always has.

    Accord sedan competes with the Nissan Altima, Toyota Camry and other midsize sedans.

    Accord coupe competes with the Toyota Solara and other midsize coupes.

    S2000 competes with the 350Z convertible, Solstice and other high performance roadsters.

    TL competes with the G35 sedan and other luxury performance sedans.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m excited to see the new Accord as well, but I think I’m being more realistic in my expectations.

  49. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 5, 2007 @ 8:53 pm

    //Their cars have never been faster, better handling or more luxurious than their competitors.// I HAVE TO DISAGREE, HONDA STANDS OUT ABOVE THEIR COMPETITION. IN HANDLING, MAYBE NOT IT SPEED, MPG AND SAFETY. HONDA HAS BEEN RATED THE GREENEST AUTOMAKER IN THE WORLD FOR FOUR CONSECUTIVE YEARS NOW(HONDA’S MAIN SITE) . I SEEN THE SPECS ON THE CIVICS, A MCPHEARSON STRUTS WERE STANDARD FEATURE AVAILABLE ON THE CIVIC. ALSO THEIR VTEC ENGINES ALLOW AS YOU SAID BEFORE MORE BANG FOR LESS. HONDA IS ALWAYS HEADS ABOVE THE REST. EVEN THE COMPETITOR’S CAR SALESMEN HAVE AGREED WITH ME WHEN EVER I COMPARE THEIR CARS TO HONDA. IN RESALE VALUE, RELIABLITY, DURABILITY AND STANDARD FEATURES. I HOLD HONDA TO HIGH STANDARDS, AND SO FAR I AM IMPRESSED WITH WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. HONDA DOESN’T JUST MAKE CARS, BUT MOTORCYCLES, SCOOTERS, LAWN EQUIPPMENT AND PERSONAL JETS. I LIKE THE WAY HONDA THINKS TOO, BUT I LIKE TO SEE MORE. LIKE THE S2000, I WOULD’NT MIND SEEING A SPORTS CAR THAT’S SIMILAR TO THE CORVETTE. I KNOW THEY CAN DO IT.
    // Also, the G35 and S2000 aren’t really in the same category (luxury sports coupe vs. performance convertible), so I don’t see why Honda would feel the need to design the new S2000 to compete with it. // HONDA IS AUTOMAKER, ALONG WITH TOYODA, NISSAN, MAZDA, FORD, CHEVY, DODGE, ETC. THEY ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF PRODUCING CARS TO PEOPLE’S LIKING. SO YOU HAVE COUPES, SEDANS, HATCH BACKS, CONVERTIBLES/ROADSTERS AND SUPERCARS MADE TO CERTAIN CLASS OF CONSUMERS. THE S2000 FAIRED WELL BUT THE ONE PROBLEM IS THE LACK OF ACCELERATION COMPARISION TO THE 350Z, SOME OF THAT IS DUE TO THE ENGINE DISPLACEMENT. IN MY OPINION IT SHOULD HAVE BETTER ACCELERATION, MAYBE ADD A V6 VERSION WITH 300HP @7000RPM . IT’S NOT LIKE THE S2000 CAN’T COMPETE, IT’S JUST A LITTLE PRICEY FOR IT. I’D RATHER SEE A SPORTS CAR FOR $34,000 TO BE SIMILAR TO THE 350Z MORE STOUT CAR. THE S2000 WAS JUST A RWD CIVIC, THEIRS NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE IN THE CIVIC TYPE-R/ SI (DEPENDING WHERE YOUR FROM) AND THE S2000. DISPLACEMENT AND PERFORMANCE ARE SOMEWHAT THE SAME EXCLUDING UNDERSTEER/OVERSTEER, I’D LIKE TO SEE SOME CHANGES IN THE S2000′S FUTURE.
  50. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 5, 2007 @ 9:05 pm

    //Yup - more HP and more MPG sounds like a winner to me. And hopefully Honda will debut a new Accord Hybrid - perhaps with the 4 cylinder this time around. Maybe even a coupe? Nah I’d get too excited…// HEY YOU MAY NEVER KNOW, IT’S POSSIBLE. THIS IS HONDA YA KNOW. UH HEY/Leroy Brown/ , ARE YOU AN MODERATOR FOR THIS WEB SITE? CAUSE I SEE YOUR USERNAME IS RED.
  51. Leroy Brown said,

    Wrote on May 5, 2007 @ 10:14 pm

    NSX-R - I’m the owner / author of this site :)
  52. Mike said,

    Wrote on May 6, 2007 @ 6:15 am

    Honda is actually slightly behind Toyota for reliability and durability. They have been a leader in efficiency. also make the best handling cars in their class. The new Camry jumped ahead of the Accord in terms of power and mileage although I would expect the new Accord to regain both those positions.
  53. Mike said,

    Wrote on May 6, 2007 @ 6:16 am

    I meant to say Honda has always been a leader in efficiency and good handling.
  54. Jonny said,

    Wrote on May 7, 2007 @ 11:02 am

    R u sure that Honda is behind Toyota for reliability and durability? IMO, comparing camry vs. accord, camry have many minor problem compared to accord. Also, my friend’s 2002 camry has cracks on its interior cheap plastic parts. 2007 camry has a lot of complaints about rattles and powertrain problem. How did you make the general conclusion? I would say they are same in reliabilty and durability.
  55. sjlee said,

    Wrote on May 7, 2007 @ 1:30 pm

    If you pick any ONE category (e.g. handling, acceleration, price, MPG, safety, reliability, etc.), you can find a competing car that does it better than the Accord.

    What you won’t find is one that beats the Accord in every category. The beauty of the Accord is that Honda has created a vehicle that is not great in any one category, but rather very good in all categories.

    Regarding reliability, Toyota seems to have a slight edge over Honda (per Consumer Reports), but it’s very close.

  56. Mike said,

    Wrote on May 7, 2007 @ 7:15 pm

    Every time I read an article about auto reliability Lexus is first and Toyota is second.Then usually Acura Infiniti and Honda.Honda is still MUCh above average and close to the leaders.
  57. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 7, 2007 @ 9:29 pm

    I AGREE WITH SJLEE, HONDA IS GOOD ALL AROUND IN EACH CATEGORY. TOYODA ARE GOOD CARS BUT COMPARED POUND FOR POUND HONDA IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN TOYODA. TOYODA IS A JAPANESE GENERAL MOTORS, IN FACT TOYODA MIGHT SURPASS GM IN SALES.
    IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, THEIRS NOTHING LIKE A HONDA, I’VE BEEN A HONDA FAN FOR 7 YEARS AND I’M NEVER TURNING BACK.
  58. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 7, 2007 @ 9:45 pm

    I READ ALMOST EVERY MAGAZINE, I’VE SEEN NOTHING BUT GREATNESS FROM HONDA, FOR EXAMPLE THE CIVIC, AND FIT. WHERE THE MOST HIGHLY RECOMMENDED CARS MENTION IN THE CONSUMER REPORT. YOU KNOW HOW THEY TEST VARIOUS CARS THAT ARE IN THE SAME CATEGORY. WELL A FEW YEARS AGO I DON’T KNOW IF IT WAS THAT OLD BUT THEY COMPARED FIVE MID SIZE TRUCKS AND RATED THEM ON HOW WELL THEY DID IN EACH OF THE TESTS. THE TOYODA TOCOMA, HONDA RIDGELINE, CHEVY COLORADO, DODGE DAKOTA AND NISSAN FRONTIER.
    AFTER THE TESTS WERE DONE, THIS WAS THE LAYOUT.
    HONDA RIDGELINE TOOK 1ST FOLLOWED BY NISSAN FRONTIER, TOYODA TACOMA, CHEVY COLORADO, AND DODGE DAKOTA. THE ONLY BAD THING THEY HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE RIDGELINE WAS IT’S BOXY APPEARANCE.
  59. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 7, 2007 @ 9:56 pm

    //I’m the owner / author of this site. //HA! I KNEW IT! MY HUNCH WAS RIGHT. BUT I COULDN’T PUT MY FINGER ON IT. EVERYBODY SEEMS PRETTY LEVEL HEADED WHEN IT COMES TO CARS. BUT OF COURSE THIS IS FOR CAR MANIACS LIKE ME, HEH HEH. ^.^ OH, BY THE WAY, GREAT SITE MAN. I LIKE THESE ARTICLES AND REVIEWS HERE. KUDOS TO YOU .
  60. sjlee said,

    Wrote on May 8, 2007 @ 7:13 am

    I reread the April issue of Consumer Reports again last night, and it did rank Toyota/Lexus higher than Honda/Acura in terms of overall reliability. You will find cases where a Honda vehicle is more reliable than a Toyota, but overall it seems that Toyota is ranked higher. Honda is a very close second.

    When comparing the two, it seems that Hondas are less expensive than comparable Toyotas. Hondas seem to have more emphasis on performance (sportier styling, handling), while Toyotas have more emphasis on comfort (quieter, smoother ride).

    The new Camry is faster than the current Accord, but I’d expect that to change with the new Accord.

  61. Leroy Brown said,

    Wrote on May 8, 2007 @ 7:35 am

    Thanks NSX-R - I just try to tell it like it is.

    sjlee - The new Camry is def. faster than the 07 Accord, no question about it. However, the handling is simple atrocious in the new Camry - I’m talking like old Crown Victoria bad. It’s simply horrible. Ya, the Accord has some serious body roll issues, but at least it goes where you want it to. The Camry has horrible horrible understeer.

  62. sjlee said,

    Wrote on May 8, 2007 @ 9:54 am

    Agreed. It goes back to my earlier comment that there are cars to do individual things better than the Accord, but none that do everything better than the Accord.

    For example, the new Camry is faster than the Accord, but doesn’t handle as well (probably because it is tuned for a comfortable ride). On the other hand, the Ford Fusion handles better than the Accord, but probably will not be as reliable.

  63. Mike said,

    Wrote on May 8, 2007 @ 1:17 pm

    I agree that Honda makes the best all around cars dollar for dollar. But Toyota does rank higher in reliability. Car magazines pick Honda oever Toyota because the guys at those magazines value handling and responsiveness much more than reliability.
  64. J DOGG said,

    Wrote on May 11, 2007 @ 9:06 pm

    I think it’s very interesting to watch everyone try to rationalize their own desires, but I believe the truth will be somewhere in between. I sell Honda’s, and the buzz around the company is to expect to a HP rating in the 260’s and an increase of about 10% in fuel economy. Also, you can say what you want about handling, performance, etc. but take this as fact: Honda is putting it’s emphasis on Safety and Reliability… …IN THAT ORDER! No manufacturer that competes head to head with Honda has as many safety features as standard equipment on their cars. In ANY category. Every single model that Honda produces has more standard safety features than any car it is competing against. Front side curtain air bags… STANDARD across the line. Active head restraints… STANDARD across the line. Toyota DOES NOT have as many standard safety features. No one does. And this is a trend you can expect to see continue. Honda is striving to have consumers link the Honda brand to safety. This is their main marketing objective at this time. When the new Accords do come out, and we’re all drooling over or perhaps complaining about the specs sheet, take a moment to check out the safety features and compare them to the current Camry or Altima. I think you’ll be amazed at what Honda gives you, and question why their competition charges you extra for your own safety.
  65. Mike said,

    Wrote on May 12, 2007 @ 5:35 am

    I agree that Honda is a leader in safety and also efficiency. I would have to say though that Hyundai offers as much safety features and crash test scores as honda.
  66. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 12, 2007 @ 4:26 pm

    THIS I KNOW ALREADY, THAT’S WHY I HAVE A CIVIC. THAT’S WHY I LIKE HONDA .THAT’S WHY I CHOSE THE CIVIC OVER THE FIT, BECAUSE OF FUEL ECONOMY, SAFTEY ETC, AND NOT JUST THAT BUT THE WAY THE LAYOUT AND DESIGN OF THE CAR DREW ME TO IT. BUT HERE THIS IS A FORUM WERE EVERYBODY SHARES KNOWLEDGE AND DESIRES THEY LIKE TO SEE. THAT’S WHY WE ARE THE CUSTOMER, AND THEY ARE THE COMPANY, THEY LISTEN TO US, NOT EVERYTHING BUT MAJOR POINTS THAT DEPEND ON THEIR SUCCESS. BUT NOT EVERYBODY SEES HONDA THE WAY YOU DO. I DO LOOK AT THE PERFORMANCE THAT I DON’T DENY, AND RELIABLITY ALONG WITH HANDLING, WHILE ANOTHER PERSON COULD BE LOOKING AT THE RESALE VALUE OR SAFETY. I BELIEVE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT HONDA STANDS FOR AND THAT’S WHY THEY ARE THE BEST. I’VE DONE PLENTY OF RESEARCH TO KNOW THIS. ESPECIALLY ON THE NEW FCX FUEL CELL CAR THAT HONDA HAS DEVELOPED, THAT WAS THEIR MAIN CONCERN, SAFETY DURIBLITY ETC. I LIKE THIS PART ABOUT HONDA BIG THINGS COME IN SMALL PACKAGES. I’M NOT SAYING THAT IT’S ALL PERFORMANCE, THIS IS AN AREA THAT I CHOSE TO LOOK AT BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE IS OUTSTANDING IN WHAT HONDA HAS DONE. NO DOUBT SAFETY IS A VERY BIG ISSUE, I’M A CAR FINATIC THIS IS WHAT I THINK, AN OPINION, OF COURSE MORE THAN LIKELY THEY WON’T PUT A 300HP OR WHAT EVER, I’M JUST DEMOSTRATING WHAT HONDA CAN DO IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO. NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS. NO HARD FEELINGS HERE, I JUST DON’T WANT PEOPLE GETTING ONE SIDED ON AN ISSUE THAT IS ALL. HONDA DO WHAT YOU DO BEST FOLLOW THE MOTTO.

    ” HONDA, THE POWER OF DREAMS.”

  67. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 12, 2007 @ 4:44 pm

    WHY DO THEY HAVE THE CIVIC SI? OR THE S2000, OR THE NSX-R? IT’S THE HERITIAGE OF HONDA, TO LEAVE OUT PERFORMANCE IS NEGATING OF WHAT HONDA ITSELF WORKED SO HARD FOR. A 1.5 LITER ENGINE GETS THE SAME PERFORMANCE OF A 1.7 LITER WITH BETTER GAS MILEAGE AND LESS POLLUTION. SAFETY, RELIABILTY, ECOSYSTEM FRIENDLY, SMART DESIGN, PERFORMANCE, HANDLING. THEY ALL COME TOGETHER MAKE UP HONDA. THEY ALL GO HAND TO HAND, ANY OF THEM ARE NOT NEGLECTED. WE CAN GET ALL TECHINCAL ALL WE WANT INCLUDING ME, BUT THERE’S NO POINT IN ARGUING OVER THESE PETITE ISSUES. LET’S JUST TALK ABOUT CARS BECAUSE NO MATTER WHO SAY WHAT HONDA WILL DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. PERIOD.
  68. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 12, 2007 @ 4:47 pm

    HEY IF A 4 CYL IS A FOUR BANGER, THEN WHAT MAKES A 6CYL. A SIX PACKER? OR BIG SIX? *.* I’M KIND OF CURIOUS…..
  69. J DOGG said,

    Wrote on May 13, 2007 @ 10:38 pm

    I didn’t mean to sound preachy about the whole safety issue, I was just trying to add a bit of insight as to the company’s current focus. As a matter of fact, I agree that I would like to see Honda get a bit more aggressive with the new Accord. Since we’re just dreaming here, here’s what I’d like to see; Honda has made it clear that the entire line will eventually be updated to the “i” VTEC series of engines, so why not create a larger and more powerful version of the Civic Si? Take the V6, 6-speed Accord “i” VTEC, push it to 300 HP, give it the same 8000 rpm redline and market it as the Accord Si. Show me a handling package with stiffer suspension, put the 18″ HFP rims on it and maybe a more aggressive rear spoiler. Offer it in a sedan as well, and you can sign me up! That way I can buy the four door Honda my wife wants for hauling the kids around, and I can still get my rocks off when I run to the store for milk. Hey Honda, if you’re reading this… I’M SERIOUS!!! This is the vehicle I would like to purchase, and you already have all the tools and technology to produce it. Let’s go boys, show me where to sign!
  70. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 14, 2007 @ 7:38 am

    YOU TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT MY MOUTH J DOGG. AN SI ACCORD SOUNDS REALLY GOOD RIGHT ABOUT NOW. YES!!! THAT’S WAS EXACTLLY WHAT I TRYING TO TELL EVERYBODY. OH HONDA PLEASE HEED TO THESE REQUESTS!
  71. sjlee said,

    Wrote on May 14, 2007 @ 8:03 am

    You don’t have to ask Honda to make an Accord Si, they already make one… it’s called the Acura TL.

    For starters the reason a Civic Si can exist is because they do not offer anything in that size with an Acura logo. On the other hand, the TL and TL Type-S are both built off the Accord platform.

    To make an Accord Si with 300 HP would make it outperform the TL Type-S.

  72. Leroy Brown said,

    Wrote on May 14, 2007 @ 8:14 am

    Unfortunately sjlee, you are too right. The TL Type-S sits at what, 280-ish HP? That’s an off the top of my head figure, so it may be off. It would seem kinda off for Honda to beat their high-end Acura with a measly Accord.

    Still, I might have trouble talking myself out of an Accord SI coupe if it were priced and spec’ed right……

  73. sjlee said,

    Wrote on May 14, 2007 @ 9:15 am

    The base TL has a 3.2L VTEC V6 rated at 258 HP/233 ft-lbs, while the TL Type-S has a 3.5L VTEC V6 with 286 HP/256 ft-lbs.

    I could see if the Accord Si and TL Type-S were built off different platforms that they could co-exist (like the TSX and current Accord).

    An Accord Si coupe could be a possibility… since they no longer offer the CL. They could also call it the Prelude as well.

  74. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 14, 2007 @ 6:19 pm

    THIS IS THE PROBLEM, I DON’T WANT A TSX OR A TL. I LIKE THE SIMPLICITY OF THE HONDA ACCORD/ CIVIC, THE CIVIC DOESN’T OFFER A V6, THE ACCORD DOES BUT IT’S NOT AS SPORTY AND IT DOESN’T HANDLE WELL. I PERSONALLY AS A YOUNG ADULT IN MY EARILY TWENTIES WOULD NOT APPRECIATE ACURA TL OR TSX. PLUS I DON’T WANT TO PAY TOP DOLLAR FOR A LUXURY/SPORTY CAR. PLUS WHY DON’T THEY UM UP THE TSX AND TL, TURBO 300 HP THAT SINCE THEY TURBOED THE RDX ADD STIFFER OR SMOOTHER SUSPENSION. THEN OFFER A EVERYDAY SPORTY ACCORD SI WITH LESS ELECTRONIC BELLS AND WHISTLES AND PRODUCE A HARD WORKING SIMPILIED TSX. LIKE CHEVY IS TO GMC, GMC IS MORE LUXURY LIKE BUT THEY DON’T CUT THE CHEVY’S PERFORMANCE. OR LIKE THE CADILLAC CTS THAT HAS A CORVETTE ENGINE @455HP THEN ON TOP OF THAT FILLED WITH ALL SORTS OF NAV.SYSTEM, 6CD CHANGER ETC. THEY DON’T NEED TO WITH HOLD A SPORTY CAR BECAUSE THEIR LUXURY CAR IS IN THAT SAME REALM. I’M SAYING IS OFFER A MORE LUXURY PACKAGE ALONG WITH BETTER PERFORMANCE, HANDLING SAFETY, ETC. ALSO, THE RSX BEFORE THEY KILLED IT AND CIVIC SI WERE BEING PRODUCED TOO. THE RSX 210HP 2.0L AND THE CIVIC SI 190HP 2.0L. APPARENTLY BOTH DID WELL AND I DIDN’T READ OR FROM HONDA THAT THE CIVIC HAD SUCKED THE RSX LIFE. ON FACT MANY PEOPLE I READ WERE SHOCKED ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO HAD A RSX AND RSX FANS. BELIEVE ME I DON’T THONK IT’S BECAUSE OF THE TL/ TSX, THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THE PROBLEM BUT FROM WHAT I CAN SEE IS THAT PEOPLE VIEW THE ACCORD AS A FAMILY CAR, NOT A POTIENTAL SPORTS CAR OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, AND THAT’S THE REASON THAT HONDA PROABLY HAVEN’T GONE INTO. ALSO THE FIT, THE FIT DIDN’T COME AROUND UNTILL THE SCION XA, XB CAME OUT, AND SAW HOW SUCCESSFUL IT WAS. BACK TO THE RSX BUT I HEARD I ONLY HEARD THAT THEY KILLED THE RSX WAS TO OFFER A POTIENTAL TSX COUPE, SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE. I READ THIS FROM AN ARTICAL ONLINE TALKING ABOUT THE DEAD RSX, DON’T REMEMBER THE SITE.
  75. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 14, 2007 @ 6:28 pm

    THIS IS HOW THEY SHOULD DO IT.
    ASI STANDS FOR ACCORD SI
    HP_DPL_NA/TURBO_DRIVE TRAIN
    TL 340HP 3.2L TURBO AWD
    TSX 320HP 3.0L TURBO AWD
    A-SI 280HP 3.0L NA FWD
    HAVE THE C SERIES MOTORS THAT WAS USED IN THE NSX. TURBOCHARGE THEM AND PLACE THEM IN BOTH THE TSX AND TL. THEN USE THE V6 MOTOR FROM THE TSX.
  76. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 14, 2007 @ 6:32 pm

    THIS IS WHAT I DON’T UNDERSTAND, WHY DO THEY HAVE A TL AND TSX? DON’T THEY BOTH SERVE THE SAME PURPOSE, AND IN THE UK THEY HAVE THE ACCORD EURO ACCORD WHICH SUITS BOTH LUXURY/SPORTS AND FAMILY.
  77. sjlee said,

    Wrote on May 15, 2007 @ 11:09 am

    Until they redesign the TL, they won’t be able to offer an Accord Si sedan. If you add up all the additional features to get an Accord Si, you’ll arrive at the same price as a TL. Right now an EX-L V6 goes for about $30k. You start adding a bigger engine, bigger wheels and other things… and the price gets into the mid 30s, which is TL territory. In other words, why would anyone pay $35k for an Accord Si when they could get a TL (which is relatively the same size) for the same price?

    The RSX Type-S and current Civic Si never really co-existed. The current Civic Si coupe came out as a 2006 model, which was the last model year for the RSX. In other words, Honda had already planned on discontinuing the RSX when they released the Civic Si. Besides, the RSX still had more HP ( 20).

    The TSX and TL don’t serve the same purpose. The TSX is based off the European Accord, which is smaller than the US Accord, which is what the TL is based off of. In addition, the TSX handles better than the TL. The TSX is more of an entry-level luxury sedan, while TL is Acura’s midpoint entry… with the RL as the top-line car.

    You can’t really compare other markets to the US. They don’t offer the US Accord overseas because there really isn’t a big market for bigger automobiles. They also do not have the Acura luxury brand over there. This is why they have to have multiple models of the Euro Accord… to cover both markets.

    You also make comparisons with Chevy, GMC and Cadillac. First of all, the GMC brand is only truck based vehicles. That being said, GM has always differentiated the two brands by luxury options, while Honda has always differentiated their Acura brand with higher performance. In addition, the Cadillac CTS-V and Chevy Corvette are two different vehicles (luxury sedan vs. performance coupe). I already said that I could see an Accord Si coupe since there no longer is an Acura CL, but if you’re talking Accord Si sedan, then that would be too much like the TL. Besides, I wouldn’t expect Honda to follow GM’s example when it comes to diversifying their vehicle offerings. As it stands GM is slowly simplifying their offerings because they have offered way too many duplicates.

  78. Mike said,

    Wrote on May 16, 2007 @ 5:58 am

    sjlee has hit the nail on the head
  79. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 16, 2007 @ 1:58 pm

    INTRESTING, I SEE.
  80. 97_ACC_EX said,

    Wrote on May 26, 2007 @ 9:02 am

    With the spy shots out, which look nothing like the conceptual drawing, what are everyone’s thoughts? I don’t think I particularly like the styling…meh…
  81. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on May 26, 2007 @ 4:05 pm

    YAH, I’M IN DISBELIEF BUT…. THAT’S WHY I HAVE MY SIGHTS ON THE COUPE. I’M HOPING FOR THE COUPE WILL FAIR BETTER THAN THE SEDAN AS FAR AS LOOKS.
  82. sdffg said,

    Wrote on May 31, 2007 @ 5:24 pm

    this is a fake drawing
  83. sdlkfj said,

    Wrote on May 31, 2007 @ 5:54 pm

    this is the front of the coup grafted on the tl. I have seen the 08 sedan and its definitely not the same car
  84. sdlkfj said,

    Wrote on May 31, 2007 @ 5:55 pm

    someone made it with photoshop
  85. sjlee said,

    Wrote on June 1, 2007 @ 9:06 am

    To the last three posts… thanks for stating the same thing that’s been posted already.

    In any case, I’d say the majority of the time the production version of cars never look like the conceptual drawings. Remember, we’re talking about the Accord sedan which has to appeal to the masses… in other words, it’s going to be conservative.

    The spy shots are still misleading with all the masking… I’m going to still hold my final opinion until I see it without any disguises.

  86. lrktj said,

    Wrote on June 1, 2007 @ 5:42 pm

    this is not a concept photo it has been made by a kid probably you sjlee
  87. ldkf said,

    Wrote on June 1, 2007 @ 5:44 pm

    good job with photoshop though, Id buy it in a heart beat
  88. kljbh said,

    Wrote on June 1, 2007 @ 5:55 pm

    where did this pic come from does anyone really know?
  89. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on June 1, 2007 @ 8:52 pm

    OK …SO THE COUPE DOESN’T LOOK LIKE THE SEDAN. PERSONALLY I’M GLAD IT DOESN’T.

    WE ARE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE SPY SHOTS THAT WERE TAKEN JUST RECEENTLY OF THE SEDAN. NOT THE CS2 PIC YOU SEE HERE.

    YAH THERE REALISTIC CARS ARE GOING TO BE PLAIN, JUST LIKE THE 07 MODEL. AGAIN…THAT WHY I’M LOOKING AT THE COUPE.

  90. NSX-R said,

    Wrote on June 1, 2007 @ 8:55 pm

    THIS PICTURE IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE SI ACCORD NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE. SEDAN STYLE!
  91. sdfkjl said,

    Wrote on June 2, 2007 @ 6:12 am

    people said the accord couldnt jump to 300 because it would over power the tl. it would only over power it for a year because it is due for a remake. and it could be an si version not the regular version. theink oubout when the current generation accord came to the market in o2 and a 03 model it had more power then the honda and acura’s entire line of cars to include the tl for a year and the rl for a couple of years./ If honda wants to it could be easily done because people would definitely buy a powerful accord si.
  92. sjlee said,

    Wrote on June 2, 2007 @ 9:30 pm

    The 2003 Honda Accord V6 was rated at 240 HP. It’s true that the 2003 TL only had 225 HP, but the TL Type-S had 260 HP. Please re-read my post… I was talking about the Type-S… not the base TL.

    And to “lrktj”, I never said it was a concept photo. I’m the one who said it was a photoshop… and I’m not even close to being a kid.

  93. Honda buyer said,

    Wrote on June 11, 2007 @ 2:15 pm

    Does anyone know when the honda 2008 is coming out dealers, and what month it will be on the market.
  94. sjlee said,

    Wrote on June 11, 2007 @ 2:22 pm

    My guess is that it’ll be available in the late summer/early fall… probably about Aug/Sept timeframe.

    I’m sure Honda will officially give a date in the next couple months. They don’t like to announce it too early. otherwise, their sales of the ‘07 model will slow down with people waiting for the new one.

  95. NSX-R (part2) said,

    Wrote on June 13, 2007 @ 11:05 pm

    hello every one , actualy i have a big experience on cars sales and i have touched the taste of the people desire ,

    If the honda accord want to be the best in the market , they have to study the taste of the people again before they load any car ,

    honda accord can be the best car even better than all the germany cars , but still they need to study it well ,

    am driving 2007 honda accord V6 - 244HP , i dont think that i would change it with 2008 for only some extra HP , think about it , if i have capacity of buying a new car i would buy some much faster , the only reason would make me buy the new accord its only if the engin will be minum 300HP with 3.5L or 3.7L . not only me , but 80% of the middle east drivers ,

    in dubai , 90% of the people love the speeds and to be more clear the women and young drivers also love the speed - and honda accord its not that important car for them since there are much faster with other brands , they prefer to buy mercedse or bmw or lumbergini or or or or or may tastes and many look and the main common in between is the speed since its the most important thing for the people ,

    i hope honda accord will attach the market with a huge engin , am not asking about 500CC am asking about something will satisfy the drivers , and the drivers will never be satisfied with 20HP extra , they would be more happy with MORE HP ,

    ALSO i can see every one is talking about the new engin of Honda Accord and every one is making it as a big deal , the qoustion is , what is the usful of having big engin without any safty , Here’s the things which Honda Accord must give it a big attention , if they want to increase the Engin Power they must forget the whole old Honda cars and start loading something very safty since there are many people are dieing because of the japanes cars , they must make the body very strong and little more heavy and bigger engin and the suspension must be such as a racing suspension ,
    there are many comment we hear it from the customers , and its all must be takin to be studied ,

  96. sjlee said,

    Wrote on June 14, 2007 @ 7:26 am

    First off, the Honda brand is not designed to compete with any luxury brands like BMW, Mercedes or Lamborghini…. that’s what the Acura lineup is for.

    You may think that cranking up the HP to 300 HP will sell the car, but that only applies to you and a small majority of car buyers for the Accord… at least globally. How many does cars are sold in Dubai across all manufacturers? I’m guessing it is only a fraction of what is sold in the US, which is the main market for this version of the Honda Accord.

    The majority of people who buy the Accord in the US are middle-aged people who have families. They want something conservatively styled, roomy and that gets good gas mileage. Performance is important as well, but not the priority. A “racing suspension” also would detract from these buyers as that would make the ride very harsh. Why do you think the Camry and Accord have sold so well in the past and present?

    Curious… what is your “big experience on car sales”?

    Also, why are you bringing up safety? I don’t think there was any question about the safety of the new Accord. Very few (if any) countries have more safety requirements than the US.

    By the way, why are you using the “NSX-R” name? I seriously doubt that you are the same person who has posted here previously. For one thing, your English doesn’t seem to be as good. Plus, you aren’t typing everything in CAPS. :)

  97. Leroy Brown said,

    Wrote on June 14, 2007 @ 7:37 am

    sjlee,
    I edited that guy’s name to show that it’s not the same guy… no caps = no NSX-R that we all know and love ;)
    Off-topic in a big way, but when the heck. Have you ever considered blogging about cars? You seem to know your stuff and write well. Any chance you might want to blog here?
  98. sjlee said,

    Wrote on June 14, 2007 @ 9:09 am

    “Part 2″… heh, heh… good one.

    I’m not really into blogging… I’m more of a person who participates on forums (discussions) and answers questions. My schedule varies quite a bit, so even though I seem quite active right now, I’m not always free to post up comments regularly.

    Thanks for the compliment on my knowledge… I’ve always been a big car buff… subscribe to car magazines, research the web, attend car shows, visit dealerships, etc.

    I appreciate you asking, but for now I’m going to pass.

  99. Zaid said,

    Wrote on June 14, 2007 @ 2:33 pm

    Hello every one !
    Reply to Sjlee ,

    First of all, am an Arab guy and English is my second language that’s why am not strong enough in English, maybe you can help me with fixing my language,

    second , I really like the new accord look like but its killing when you have very nice car with small engine that why I was writing just to show out how much we need the biggest engine for the NEW HONDA ACCORD ,

    THIRD , about my experience in cars , I can say that I sell almost 250 up to 400 hundred cars every month , and am in touch with whole the middle east buyers ,plus you cant sell any product till you get to know the products you are selling , With One word I can say if Honda will load 3.5L or 300HP , I can sell more than 5000 Honda car’s with less than 6 months .

    In regard of the Honda & Camry sales in Arab emirates ONLY , its a huge sales , and if you really want to know , I can give you the full report about the Honda sales comparing with Camry sales , I never said that Honda will not sell its new product because of the engine , am sure they will sell much better than the previous years , what I was talking about it was just comparing the Honda V6 engine with altima 3.5L and Camry 3.5L and Infinity G35 and others , what I believe its the Honda engine is TOO MUCH better than the others mentioned , and AM SURE THAT HONDA would be more stronger in the market if they load the 3.5L engine ,

    Fourth, for the name which I used the other name, I was reading the people comment’s and I agree with Mr. NSX-R , and this is the first time I join this website and I had insert his name in the wrong place , so I think there’s a misunderstanding in my previous message ,

    Fifth, I really thank you for reading my words , we are not fighting each other here , am so happy that I have found this website , am really glad to read your comments and write my comments , we’re just sharing our desires and it’s a nice thing to do ,

    Thanks & regards

  100. sjlee said,

    Wrote on June 15, 2007 @ 7:36 am

    I wasn’t criticizing your English, but merely pointing out that I didn’t think you were “NSX-R” because your English wasn’t as good as his.

    Also, Honda has not announced the specs for the new Accord’s engines, so I don’t see how you can call it “small”. In addition, you’re wrong about it needing the “biggest engine”. With gas prices they way they are, people want something fuel efficient. In addition, the US Accord is a family car… not a sports car.

    Wow, if you sell 400 cars every month, you must be the best car salesman in the Middle East because that’s more than every car salesperson I’ve ever met… like 10 times more. Do you work with Trading Enterprises?

    You also fail to realize that we’re talking about the US Accord… which is sold to US customers. It is designed and marketed for the US market, not the Middle East.

    Wow, 5000 Hondas in less than 6 months? That translates into over 10,000 in a year. That would be amazing… considering Honda sold only about 80,000 cars in the Middle East and Africa in all of 2006.

    As a comparison, Honda sold over 145,000 vehicles last MONTH.

    A bigger engine translates into lower gas mileage and higher price… two things that’ll hurt sales.

  101. mike said,

    Wrote on June 16, 2007 @ 5:59 am

    I think our Arab friend was using a little hyperbole. I would imagine that in his world gas is very cheap so fuel economy is not important. They also probably don’t have the emissions standrds that we have here in California.If going fast is sooo important there , they should all buy Corvettes.
  102. Zaid said,

    Wrote on June 16, 2007 @ 11:29 pm

    Hello every one !

    I have received some comments to my email from NSX-R & sjlee AND others , they were talking about dubai world cars ,

    Actualy Mr NSX-R forced me to laugh when he was talking about PORSCHE 911 , and why we dont buy this car since we like the speed ,

    for the knowldge of every one , there is no fast car in the world not available in dubai ,

    CLK GTR , SLR , CLS , M3 , M5 , M6 , PORSCHE CAYAN, PORSCHE911 , every fast car in the world you can see in dubai , one more thing dubai is the first city in the whole world who receive the new amazing cars ,

    MY friends , I advice you to open dubai News and find out the cars news ,

    befor three days one car plate number in abu dhabi was soled with 25 million DHS which wroth like 6.784.260,50 Million US $ ( Six Million Seven Hundred Eight Four Thousand Two Hundred Sixty US $ and fifty Sent ,

    you are coming to talk about ecnomy , what kind of ecnomy , trust me whole the earth one day will be dissapear , tomorrow we all will die , why you should save for tomorrow ,

    by the way some one asked me what kind of car do i drive , actualy i have two cars ,
    1 - one is Honda Accord 2007 (3.0L) its for busniess , i keep going here and there to do
    servive my busniess ,
    2 - the second car is lamborghini Gallardo V10 , 5.0L , 600HP . i use it for going out after work week end g/f , plus we do racing many time’s during the year , so every one will come with his amazing car and start racing , we have one full area for racing in emirates , so i use for fun only and not during my works days ,

    thanks every body and hopes you enjoy the new summer time , its too hot here and some body is inviting me to beach and i have to go before i lose the lunch , wish you all the best ,

  103. S2000 said,

    Wrote on June 17, 2007 @ 9:06 pm

    HMM INSTEAD OF CORVETTE’S THEY SHOULD WAIT UNTIL THE NEW 09 NSX COMES OUT. SINCE THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO GET THE BENZ AND BEAMERS.
  104. S2000 said,

    Wrote on June 17, 2007 @ 9:29 pm

    S2000 (AKA NSX-R)

    NSX-R(PART2) PLEASE DON’T USE OTHER PEOPLE’S USER NAMES……. IT’S CONFUSING TO OTHERS. WHERE DO YOU GET THE WHOLE IDEA TO MAKE THE CAR HEAVIER? I DON’T THINK SO. AND WHERE DID YOU GET PEOPLE GETTING KILLED IN JAPANESE CARS. PERSONALLY I’LL SAY DOMESTIC CARS HERE IN THE U.S. ESPECIALLY FORD ARE THE DEADLY ONES.

    YAH A LITTLE HYPERBOLE MIKE…. YOU ARE BEING TOO GENEROUS, MAYBE MORE LIKE EXCESSIVE HYPERBOLE.

  105. sjlee said,

    Wrote on June 18, 2007 @ 12:30 pm

    What any of this (Zaid’s comments) has to do with the original statement is beyond me. Also, I notice that none of my questions have been answered.

    With posts like this, I find that it’s just a waste of time to reply…

    “one more thing dubai is the first city in the whole world who receive the new amazing cars ”

    “you are coming to talk about ecnomy , what kind of ecnomy , trust me whole the earth one day will be dissapear , tomorrow we all will die , why you should save for tomorrow ,”

  106. S2000(NSX-R) said,

    Wrote on June 18, 2007 @ 5:56 pm

    I UNDERSTAND WHAT ZAID IS SAYING ABOUT THE WHOLE ISSUE OF THE EARTH DISSAPPEARING. BECAUSE THINK ABOUT IT, ESPECIALLY HERE IN AMERICA POLLUTION IS A HUGE PROBLEM. BUT IF YOU LOOK BACK IN1997 WHEN GAS WAS 86CENTS PER GALLON, DO YOU THINK AMERICA WAS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING? I AS A YOUNG INDIVIDUAL SUCH AS MYSELF WAS ONE WHO SAUGHT FOR BIG SUV’S NORTHSTAR VORTEC ENGINES, CADDIES AND CHEVYS. TO ME THE BIGGER THE BETTER AND SAFER. MY PARENTS BELIEVED IN HAVING A STRONG ENGINE THAT WAS HEAVY ON ACCELERATION AND MASS WAS A GREAT CAR. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE USED TO LIVE 80 MILES SOUTH OF HOUSTON, COMMUTING BACK AND FORTH. WE HAD A GAS BIG GULP SUV, A 97YUKON 5.6L V8 WHICH I KNOW ME AND MY FAMILY WERE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT GAS PRICES, IN FACT I REMEMBER MY FATHER SAYING THAT HE WOULD NOT WANT ANYTHING LOWER THAN A V8 IN HIS CAR OR TRUCK. SO WHEN WE PULLED UP TO A GAS PUMP. IT WAS NEVER A BIG DEAL, IT WAS LIKE APART OF LIFE. WHICH IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET AROUND ANYWAY.

    ANOTHER ISSUE THE HYBRIDS, I’M NOT BEATING DOWN THEM IN ANY WAY BUT THE COST OF THE HYBRIDS DOESN’T SEEM TO ADD UP. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THESE FROM WHAT I’VE SEEN AND HEARD ONLY KEEP THEIR CARS FOR A FEW YEARS AND REPLCE IT WITH A NEWER MODEL. JUST LIKE HOUSES, VERY FEW FAR AND INBETWEEN WILL STAY IN A HOUSE FOR 7 YEARS OR LONGER, ESPECIALLY THIS GENERATION. TO ME THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE ARE GOING FOR HIGH MPG CARS IS BECAUSE OF THE HIGH COST OF FUEL, NOT THE POLLUTION. MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WILL BE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR WALLETS THAN SOMETHING LIKE GREEN HOUSE GASES. CAUSE IF GAS WAS 89CENTS PER GALLON FOR PREMIUM I DON’T THINK WE WOULD BE SEEING THIS SUBCOMPACT CARS BUZZING AROUND.

    I SAID ALL THAT TO SAY THIS. I CAN UNDERSTAND HIS STAND POINT AND I KNOW YALL HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY ARE NOT CONCERNED WITH GAS PRICES.

    TO SUM IT UP, WHY TRY TO PRESERVE WHAT’S GOING TO ROT AWAY ANYWAY. IT’S NOT LIKE SIPPING ON GAS WILL SAVE THE WORLD.

    IF WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IT’S GOING TO TAKE SOME SERIOUS OVERHAUL ON THESE FACTORIES, POWERPLANTS AND OIL COMPANIES THAT ARE THE MAIN CAUSE OF THESE HARMFUL EMISSIONS AND GO STRAIGHT SOLAR WIND AND HYDRO POWER TO SEE SOME REAL CHANGES.

  107. Mike said,

    Wrote on June 19, 2007 @ 5:40 am

    Personally I have always been concerned with pollution and energy efficiency. I have always walked or biked to work or school and put compact flourescent bulbs in my house 15 years ago before it was the rage. hang dry my clothes etc. But I agree people in general don’t care about conservation or pollution they only care when it bites thm in the pocket book.
    Honda has always strived for fuel efficiency. Ford is a leader in PZEV. In haead to head crash the larger car usually wins but you are more likely to die per mile driven in an SUV than a small car becasue they are more likely to roll and cannot stop as quickly meaning more one vehicle crashes.
    I think with tax breaks for hybirds they are worth it. Especially if the next generation prius lives up to its’ billing.But I do think we need to move toward mass transit and bike lanes rather than wish for 300 hp engines in family cars.
  108. sjlee said,

    Wrote on June 19, 2007 @ 9:09 am

    Since global warming seems to be “all the rage” these days, I thought this article would be good reading…

    http://www.abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3061015

    “TO SUM IT UP, WHY TRY TO PRESERVE WHAT’S GOING TO ROT AWAY ANYWAY. IT’S NOT LIKE SIPPING ON GAS WILL SAVE THE WORLD.”

    That’s a pretty narrow-minded point of view. That’s like saying, why bother throwing a candy bar wrapper in the garbage can… it’s not like it’s going to make a big mess or ruin the world? Why have laws when people are going to break them?

    You may consider pollution bad in the US, but it’s much worse in other countries. Many countries don’t have government agencies like the EPA doing studies on the environment and enforcing environmental laws. You think it’s bad here, check out places like Bombay or New Delhi… over populated cities with no restrictions on pollution whatsoever.

    Consumer Reports has done the financial analysis of hybrids. In most cases, the additional cost of a hybrid model (Camry, Accord, RX400, etc.), does not offset the gas savings and tax break. With the Prius, it’s hard to compare it since there is no non-hybrid version. In general, you should not purchase a hybrid if your sole purpose is to save money.

    The Earth has been around for millions of years… and it will probably be around for another million. On the other hand, humans may not.

  109. S2000 said,

    Wrote on June 19, 2007 @ 12:13 pm

    That’s a pretty narrow-minded point of view.
    SO WHAT ELSE IS NEW?

    That’s like saying, why bother throwing a candy bar wrapper in the garbage can… it’s not like it’s going to make a big mess or ruin the world? Why have laws when people are going to break them?
    SERIOUSLY I’M TALKING ABOUT GREEN HOUSE GASES AND EMISSIONS. NOT TRASH OR LAWS.

    YAH BUT WHEN YOU THROW AWAY PLASTIC ITEMS SUCH AS DISPOSABLE CUPS, PLATES, CAMERAS. WERE DOES IT ALL GO? IN THE OVERFLOWING LAND FILLS WHERE IT WILL SIT THERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND NOT DECOMPOSE. I’M SURE FACTORIES ARE NOT DUMPING CHEMICALS INTO OUR OCEANS AND LAKES AND THE SAME WATER THAT IS CHEMICALLY TREATED FOR US TO DRINK. I’M SURE THAT TANKER SHIPS AREN’T SPILLING OIL AND KILLING SEA LIFE. AND I’M POSITIVE POWERPLANTS AREN’T DUMPING NUCLEAR WASTE UNDERGROUND WHERE THE RADIATION WILL STAY FOR DECADES AND HOPEFULLY WON’T KILL US.

    TAKE A LOOK AT THE PARKING LOTS… PRIME EXAMPLE, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH THOSE TYPE OF MINDSETS. IT’S EASY TO SAY WHAT YOU SAY. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND IT’S REALITY, I SEEN PLENTY WITH MY OWN EYES, ESPECALLY WORKING IN A MAJOR ELECTRONIC RETAIL STORE. DEMOS ARE JUST THROWN AWAY, NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THEM, THINGS THAT CAN BE REUSED OR FIXED, I EVEN ASKED IF I COULD TAKE IT HOME SINCE THEY CAN’T USE IT. AND THEIR EXCUSE IS “WE WILL LOSE PROFITS IF WE GAVE EVERYTHING AWAY.” SO THEY TRASH THEM, I PERSONALLY WATCHED THEM DO IT. IT BURNS ME TO SEE SOMETHING GO TO WASTE AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT AT ALL!

    YOU CAN SAY THAT’S DIFFERENT, I’LL PUT IT THIS WAY IT MAY NOT EFFECT US IF WE JUST THROW IT AWAY. BUT OTHER WILL BE AFFECTED.

    THESE DOCUMENTARY EVENTS. IT’S NOTHING NEW, NOR DOES IT SURPRISE ME. YOU GOT ONE THING STRAIGHT WE MIGHT KILL OURSELVES (HUMAN RACE) OFF BY OUR OWN GREED.

    WE CAN THANK THE GREED OF THIS NATION ESPECIALLY CAPITOLISM DRIVEN COMPANIES WHO CARE LESS ABOUT PEOPLE AND THEIR INHABITANTS BUT THEY CARE FOR THEMSELVES.

    I KNOW THAT OTHER COUNTRIES SUFFER BECAUSE OF OUR GLUTON GREEDY LIFESTYLE IN AMERICA BECAUSE WE WANT EVERYTHING CONVENIENT. FOR EXAMPLE, IN CHINA THE U.S. IS DUMPING OLD COMPUTER PARTS LIKE MONITORS WHICH CONTAINS LEAD INTO THEIR RIVERS AND LANDS I SAT THERE WATCH THROUGH THE TUBE LITTLE CHILDREN HAVING TO STEP OVER OUR OWN MESS THAT WE HAVE DECIDED TO THROW AWAY. OUR OWN WASTE IS BEING DUMPED INTO OTHER COUNTRIES.

    I DON’T THINK AS A WHOLE, US AS A NATION IS PUTTING FORTH SOME EFFORTS IN RESOLVING THESE ISSUES.

  110. sjlee said,

    Wrote on June 19, 2007 @ 12:47 pm

    Interesting. First you say my trash analogy doesn’t apply, but then you go and complain about dumping trash in China.

    There’s way more to life than what you see in that electronics store. Grocery stores, restaurants throw away perfectly good food at the end of the day. I’m talking about food… a necessity in life, not electronics. Many places would like to donate the food, but what happens if someone gets sick eating the food? Most places aren’t willing to take that risk.

    I love how Americans complain about America. Are you doing anything about it? Do you honestly think that greed is limited to our country? If the Chinese government didn’t allow it, no one could dump their trash there. Where do you think any country with nuclear power does with their nuclear waste?

    As far as landfills and polluting, like it or not we all (including you) contribute to it on a daily basis. So, when you start pointing fingers and complaining about pollution, I hope you’re including yourself. The US (as a nation) includes all of us. You can sit back, complain, say that it’s hopeless and watch the world crumble around you, or you can actually try to do something about it.

    Ugh, why are we discussing this here anyway? Last time I checked, it was a car forum, not a political forum.

  111. S2000 said,

    Wrote on June 20, 2007 @ 12:33 am

    I’M NOT GOING TO WASTE TIME ARGUING ABOUT WHO’S COMPLAINING ABOUT WHO. LET’S CUT THE NONSENSE AND GET BACK TO THE ACCORD…..I PREFER THE COUPE, THE SEDAN IS A LITTLE TOO MUCH FOR ME.
  112. Joe said,

    Wrote on June 26, 2007 @ 12:15 am

    WOOOOOOOW thats bad-@$$!!! I think Honda needs to make its first ever V8! Dont you? My mom ownes a 96 honda accord sedan 4 cyl vtec EX and i love it! it drives like a sports car! And my grandma also ownes a 95 honda civic delsol Doch vtec all stock 135K miles 160hp the torque could be a lot better but still that thing is 4 cyl killer and it is a 4cyl ha ha ha!
  113. Joe said,

    Wrote on June 26, 2007 @ 12:50 am

    I see it as we all dont care about anything, BUT MONEY! Its a good thing we are trying to save $ by making mpg improvements. But at the same time what about our inviorment? I wonder when we will be laying in our trash? And using other countries to save us from the truth! Isnt it about time we did something about every thing and not just about little things at a time?
  114. Tee said,

    Wrote on July 19, 2007 @ 7:55 pm

    Anyone know if the 2008 Accord has started mass production yet?
  115. sjlee said,

    Wrote on July 20, 2007 @ 11:31 am

    Probably not. I think the projected release date isn’t until October.
  116. Julie said,

    Wrote on July 29, 2007 @ 3:49 pm

    I’ve seen two different versions of the 2008 Accord sedan, one of which I think is fabulous:

    http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/354/C8105/

    …and another which is awful:

    http://www.autoblog.com/2007/05/11/spy-shots-2008-honda-accord-sedan-spied/

    Can anyone confirm which one is the right one? Hopefully it’s the first one, not the second. Of course, the one posted on this site is a third version, which isn’t too bad.

  117. Julerson said,

    Wrote on July 29, 2007 @ 3:53 pm

    I’m confused. This is the third version of the 2008 Accord Sedan I’ve seen. It’s not bad, but here’s the one I like better:

    http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/354/C8105/

    And here’s one I REALLY hope they don’t go with:

    http://www.autoblog.com/2007/05/11/spy-shots-2008-honda-accord-sedan-spied/

    Can anyone clarify this for me?

  118. Leroy Brown said,

    Wrote on July 30, 2007 @ 8:25 am

    Julie,

    The pic at MobileMag is just a pic, and not a production unit. Truth be told, I like that one the best - looks like a big Civic, which I think is a great looking car. The one pictured at Autoblog is the production unit, just covered up. Unmasked pictures can be found here.

  119. Julie said,

    Wrote on August 9, 2007 @ 1:35 pm

    I only saw pictures of the coupe, not the sedan. I wish it was like the first one too (the one that looks similar to a Civic). I still want to see the 2008 Accord Sedan unmasked. Of course, I don’t think I’ll need one until 2009, but the design will be the same then too.
  120. sjlee said,

    Wrote on August 9, 2007 @ 1:58 pm

    Julie - The pictures of the new Accord sedan are located in the same place as the pictures of the Accord coupe… you just have to click on the picture.

    Here’s a direct link to the pictures…

    http://jalopnik.com/cars/accord_ing-to-our-sources/spy-photos-2008-honda-accord-272481.php

  121. Julie said,

    Wrote on August 9, 2007 @ 5:13 pm

    Thanks! That helps.
  122. Zaid said,

    Wrote on August 10, 2007 @ 12:11 am

    Hey julie , take it easy , i also wish it will look like the civic ,

    but unfortunilty there’s nothing is perfect ,

    i prefer lexuse much better than honda

  123. Jem said,

    Wrote on August 30, 2007 @ 9:54 am

    This is the japanese honda accord sport. Looks a lot better than US accord, right?
  124. michelle said,

    Wrote on August 31, 2007 @ 12:35 am

    hi whats up from what i heard and read the new 08 accord is goin to be a 3.5 liter with i-vtec and 273 hp with hondas new gen vcm engine honda is looking to compete with altima and camry which i think looks wise the coupe accord is betta then both i have a 07 accord v6 and think its fast enough but more horse bigger liters im ready to trade mine in and move up.lol
  125. michelle said,

    Wrote on August 31, 2007 @ 12:37 am

    hi
  126. michelle said,

    Wrote on August 31, 2007 @ 12:40 am

    the new V6 gets a half liter more, moving up to a 3.5-liter i-VTEC V6 engine with 273 HP at 6,200 rpm and 250 lb-ft of torque at 5,000 rpm with a 5-speed slushbox. The new engine also introduces Honda’s next-gen Variable Cylinder Management (VCM) technology to give the new Accord four-door a purported EPA City/Highway fuel economy of 19/29 mpg.
  127. Civic Si-R said,

    Wrote on October 12, 2007 @ 2:21 pm

    Whats happening, final #s on the X-RATED Accord 3.5 litre i-VTEC V-6 bumping 268hp_250lb/tq and Hondas newly developed VCM (Variable Cylinder Managment)which can run in 4,5,or,6cyl modes to deliver optimum power and varying mpg……….GREAT GAS MILEAGE…HIGH POWER AND LOOKS THAT’LL MAKE MUSTANG GT PISS ITSELF YEAH I’M HAPPY…
  128. JIM said,

    Wrote on October 30, 2007 @ 8:20 pm

    I purchased an EX-L V6 Honda Accord 3 weeks ago. I currently have 889 miles on it. I took a trip this past week-end on I-35 from Oklahoma to Kansas and back. Total miles driven was 590 miles at 70 MPH. I was under the impression this car would get between 29 MPG on the highway. I was disappointed with the gas milage as I only averaged 26 MPG. The 2001 Volvo S80 T-6 I had prior to getting this car was rated for 26 MPG on the Highway and it would get 28 MPG at 70 MPH. This new Accord is rated for 29 on the Highway and gets 26 MPG.

    What gives? Is this 2008 Accord v-6 not capable of getting 29 MPG on the Interstate?

  129. Leroy Brown said,

    Wrote on November 1, 2007 @ 2:51 pm

    Congrats on the new purchase. Your mileage could be due to any number of things, so I’m wildly speculating here. My best guess would be to give it time, because your engine is brand new and not broken in yet. A few thousand miles under the belt and your mileage should improve.

    Also it could be that you need to get used to the new car - anytime I get a new car I have to get a feel for what works and what doesn’t in the mileage area - takes some getting used to. Perhaps you aren’t getting into 3cylinder mode very often? The VCM is the main reason that the Accord is able to get such a strong EPA highway rating, considering it’s packing 268 HP.

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